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	<title>Comments on: Patriots vs Satria Muda – ABL finals preview by Louis Angeles</title>
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		<title>By: lrangels</title>
		<link>http://redhoops.com/2010/02/10/patriots-satria-muda-finals/comment-page-1/#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>lrangels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Hanoi. I don&#039;t think Gilas will benefit anything from playing in the ABL. Nothing against the ABL, but I think the Philippine team are better off playing against teams outside Southeast Asia.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Hanoi. I don&#8217;t think Gilas will benefit anything from playing in the ABL. Nothing against the ABL, but I think the Philippine team are better off playing against teams outside Southeast Asia.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanoi-Nha Trang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hanoi-Nha Trang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilas will only waste money if u send to ABL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilas will only waste money if u send to ABL.</p>
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		<title>By: Petiksmode</title>
		<link>http://redhoops.com/2010/02/10/patriots-satria-muda-finals/comment-page-1/#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>Petiksmode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup yup I agree if Cebu based team joins in it will be exiting by the way Nonoy Baclao is from that region I heard...Also greg Slaughter of Gilas to mention a few. Hope they field in top NCAA or UAAP, PBL regulars,  etc(players from other known Collegiate clubs)... rookies too not to mention top picks and maybe Prime PBA players.  Umm how bout include Smart Gilas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup yup I agree if Cebu based team joins in it will be exiting by the way Nonoy Baclao is from that region I heard&#8230;Also greg Slaughter of Gilas to mention a few. Hope they field in top NCAA or UAAP, PBL regulars,  etc(players from other known Collegiate clubs)&#8230; rookies too not to mention top picks and maybe Prime PBA players.  Umm how bout include Smart Gilas</p>
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		<title>By: Hanoi-Nha Trang</title>
		<link>http://redhoops.com/2010/02/10/patriots-satria-muda-finals/comment-page-1/#comment-2188</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanoi-Nha Trang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also emphasize by KL dragons team owner, it is a business..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also emphasize by KL dragons team owner, it is a business..</p>
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		<title>By: lrangels</title>
		<link>http://redhoops.com/2010/02/10/patriots-satria-muda-finals/comment-page-1/#comment-2174</link>
		<dc:creator>lrangels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mart.  Yes, you are right.  I think they got themselves into a financial crunch that&#039;s why they pulled out (I might be wrong).  

The Zobel de Ayala family also has a franchise in the PBA, Purefoods.  However, they sold Purefoods to San Miguel Corporation about ten years ago.

These individuals are certainly open to the possibility of owning an ABL team, but at the end of the day they&#039;re businessmen.  They also wanted to see how much money they would earn from it.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mart.  Yes, you are right.  I think they got themselves into a financial crunch that&#8217;s why they pulled out (I might be wrong).  </p>
<p>The Zobel de Ayala family also has a franchise in the PBA, Purefoods.  However, they sold Purefoods to San Miguel Corporation about ten years ago.</p>
<p>These individuals are certainly open to the possibility of owning an ABL team, but at the end of the day they&#8217;re businessmen.  They also wanted to see how much money they would earn from it.</p>
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		<title>By: mart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m not mistaken,
Gokongwei used to have a PBA team up to the early 90s.  (showcasing their brand Great Taste Coffee,  Presto Tivoli).  had at least 3 ALl-Filipino Titles.  They had 2 of the best gunners in their fold,  Ricky Brown - best career scoring average - and Allan Caidic - 3 point shots records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken,<br />
Gokongwei used to have a PBA team up to the early 90s.  (showcasing their brand Great Taste Coffee,  Presto Tivoli).  had at least 3 ALl-Filipino Titles.  They had 2 of the best gunners in their fold,  Ricky Brown &#8211; best career scoring average &#8211; and Allan Caidic &#8211; 3 point shots records.</p>
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		<title>By: Hanoi-Nha Trang</title>
		<link>http://redhoops.com/2010/02/10/patriots-satria-muda-finals/comment-page-1/#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanoi-Nha Trang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+ Pampanga or Laguna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+ Pampanga or Laguna.</p>
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		<title>By: lrangels</title>
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		<dc:creator>lrangels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May be we can hype this up!  

Hey Lhuillier and Gokongwei!  Please either one of you or both form a team based there in Cebu.  Unless, you guys are afraid that the Manila boys would lay a smackdown on yah!

*no harm intended, just to hype it up!

MANILA represent!

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May be we can hype this up!  </p>
<p>Hey Lhuillier and Gokongwei!  Please either one of you or both form a team based there in Cebu.  Unless, you guys are afraid that the Manila boys would lay a smackdown on yah!</p>
<p>*no harm intended, just to hype it up!</p>
<p>MANILA represent!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!if its true that a Cebu City  team is the one from Philippines that will join the expansion team of ABL next season,that will be grait.c&quot;,)The Manila(Patriots) vs Cebu(Niños)?? rivalry continues..c&quot;,)Man Cebu has the best fans in the Philippines..cant wait to see this rivalry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!if its true that a Cebu City  team is the one from Philippines that will join the expansion team of ABL next season,that will be grait.c&#8221;,)The Manila(Patriots) vs Cebu(Niños)?? rivalry continues..c&#8221;,)Man Cebu has the best fans in the Philippines..cant wait to see this rivalry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lrangels</title>
		<link>http://redhoops.com/2010/02/10/patriots-satria-muda-finals/comment-page-1/#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>lrangels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kelvin and wayklaro. Opening a team in Cebu not only reduces the nationalistic tendencies of the Filipino fans, but it also opens up opportunity for players from Cebu. Over the course of history the Queen City of the south has produced tons of professional basketball players. If I am not mistaken, Rob Wainwright of the Patriots started his career in Cebu when the MBA is still around.

I think accepting 2 more team for expansion would make sense because more than might not be good for business, overhead costs, travel, etc. For me, I prefer one expansion from Philippines (i.e., Cebu), and one from an ASEAN country. It&#039;s cool to have one more from Philippines, say from Mindanao, but it would make more sense if it&#039;s from an ASEAN country because it would help expand the popularity of basketball in the region.  After all, that&#039;s the whole purpose of the ABL. Having two more teams from Philippines might not help the league and the region since it&#039;s already a gimme that basketball is popular in Philippines.

@NusaBasket. The very reason why Satria Muda as well as the Indonesian National Basketball team knows or plays similar to the Philippine style of play is that Fictor Roring was mentored by Filipino coaches in the past. The names Bong Ramos, Nat Canson, and David Zamar have come to Indonesia either as a coach in the IBL or in the national team. This resulted in transfer of certain Basketball knowledge or technology.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kelvin and wayklaro. Opening a team in Cebu not only reduces the nationalistic tendencies of the Filipino fans, but it also opens up opportunity for players from Cebu. Over the course of history the Queen City of the south has produced tons of professional basketball players. If I am not mistaken, Rob Wainwright of the Patriots started his career in Cebu when the MBA is still around.</p>
<p>I think accepting 2 more team for expansion would make sense because more than might not be good for business, overhead costs, travel, etc. For me, I prefer one expansion from Philippines (i.e., Cebu), and one from an ASEAN country. It&#8217;s cool to have one more from Philippines, say from Mindanao, but it would make more sense if it&#8217;s from an ASEAN country because it would help expand the popularity of basketball in the region.  After all, that&#8217;s the whole purpose of the ABL. Having two more teams from Philippines might not help the league and the region since it&#8217;s already a gimme that basketball is popular in Philippines.</p>
<p>@NusaBasket. The very reason why Satria Muda as well as the Indonesian National Basketball team knows or plays similar to the Philippine style of play is that Fictor Roring was mentored by Filipino coaches in the past. The names Bong Ramos, Nat Canson, and David Zamar have come to Indonesia either as a coach in the IBL or in the national team. This resulted in transfer of certain Basketball knowledge or technology.</p>
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