Comments on: Patriots sweep Satria Muda to win ABL finals

By: lrangels

lrangels — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:39:14 +0000

If this tournament will really pushed through as another qualifier for the FIBA-Asia Champions Cup or just a side tournament, I think the SEABA Champions Cup is a good opportunity to feature ABL teams or non-ABL teams or may be a potential ABL teams to participate because various reasons:

- The potential to play in a greater stage in Asia which is the FIBA-Asia Champions Cup.
- Feature new recruits from different teams either be locals or imports. In case some of the imports who might not return, they got a glimpse of a good replacement.
- If the ABL is indeed expanding to two more teams, this is the chance of those potential teams to make an argument.
- The most important is to keep the team (coaching staff, trainers, and players) busy, and keep promoting basketball in the region.
- This will also keep redhoops busy with our comments. I am sorry I tend to be a slave driver. LOL!
- This is also a good way to promote the league too! Refering to the other article.
- And many more!

I think FIBA-Asia wouldn’t mind to field more than one team from a region or country. Think of it as the UEFA Champions League. They allow more than two teams for some country because the level of their play. Just back in 2008, two English teams played in the final — course my team Manchester United won! Anyway, you certainly know what I meant even though I used football as an example.

By: jan

jan — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 18:31:21 +0000

It does makes sense to have another SEABA qualifying tourney, it just means that there will be 2 representatives from Southeast Asia, which was the case in the past until 2005-08 where there was only either 1 SEA representative or none!

And I do think it’s perfectly ok to have 2 teams from Philippines, they have come through entirely different qualifying means anyway.

We’ll wait to hear more details about that – it’s probably only a contest between non-ABL teams though – since most ABL imports have gone home and are playing in other leagues elsewhere in the world unless they get new imports?

There are also qualifying tourneys in East Asia, South Asia and Central Asia, so if 2 (or more) clubs from each region qualify, on top of the defending champion, and host, that would make it a 10-team (at least) competition, nice!

Though, I will be interested to see in future IF an ABL champion has a roster of 3 ASEAN imports, will the 3 be allowed to play in the Champions Cup? Given how most ABL teams will be weakened by a notch without the ASEAN imports.

(And okay okay I know all the Pinoy guys will be everso tempted to say “But Patriots will just keep winning the ABL!!!” Hahah.. )

By: Mahiwaga

Mahiwaga — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:05:28 +0000

Imports! what about player from middleastern, are their roster real local or do they have africans,americans change name become full time citizenship?

By: Yousef

Yousef — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:26:42 +0000

Gilas is on hard training for FIBA,now patriots enter into the scene? which team is the representative of philipine??

By: 3stars

3stars — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:17:12 +0000

thanks irangels.. that clears up confusion on the possible 2 teams in fiba champions cup

By: Nards

Nards — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:06:04 +0000

so there are 2 SEABA Qualifiers, ABL and this?

then it will be a given

By: 3stars

3stars — Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:46:47 +0000

lrangels..last time i checked they are not pushing thru with the seaba qualifier its not on the fiba calendar.. abl itself is the qualifier..unless they changed their mind..can you send the link of the article?

By: lrangels

lrangels — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:38:47 +0000

Hey all! I just found an article regarding Smart-Gilas’ intent to join the FIBA-Asia Champions Cup. They (Smart-Gilas) have to join the SEABA qualifier. Where? It wasn’t specified in the article.

So I expect teams like Satria-Muda and other ABL teams to join here.

For more, http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=553667&publicationSubCategoryId=69

Enjoy!

By: Nards

Nards — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:20:38 +0000

@jan jus sanguinis is defined by Law as “citizenship acquired through the citizenships of their parents and since he was born in the US, he is also a recepient of the US concept of jus soli defined as “citizenship acquired through birth in within one state or of its territories” therefore puts rob wainwright in a position to play for the Patriots as both local and player with ASEAN heritage unless the Patriots hire another ASEAN – foreign (neither categorized as filipino in Jus sanguinis/loci).

it therefore puts any protest filed against the Patriots regarding Wainwrights position as local… NULL and VOID

this also puts the Patriots in a position to field fil-ams in the future and if seen fit.

and protests made in the case of fielding Fil-Ams will be also made NULL and VOID due to Art.4, Section 2-3 of the 1987 Philippine Constitution!

By: jack

jack — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:47:31 +0000

@jan- rob wainright is a filipino.The philippine law practice the jus sanguines principle.He was born to a filipino mother, as provided by our 1987 constitution.” Those whose fathers or mothers are citizens of the Philippines.This the basisi of wainright’s citizenship….Dual citizenship is only a new law in the philippines.